June 17, 2007

BBC: Rendition and the rights of the individual

clipped from news.bbc.co.uk
The outrage evident in the Council of Europe report on the secret CIA rendition programme emerges from a clash between the methods used by the United States to break up al-Qaeda networks
The report's author, Swiss Senator Dick Marty
"While the states of the Old World have dealt with these threats primarily by means of existing institutions and legal systems, the United States appears to have made a fundamentally different choice:
"This legal approach is utterly alien to the European tradition and sensibility, and is clearly contrary to the European Convention on Human Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
The most serious charge Mr Marty makes in his report is against Poland and Romania, both of which he all but accuses of having allowed the CIA to run black sites.
It therefore built not only Guantanamo Bay, but a series of "black sites", or secret prisons around the world.
senior al-Qaeda suspects were held and interrogated, sometimes by so-called "enhanced" methods
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4 comments:

Unknown said...

The report's author, Swiss Senator Dick Marty...

"While the states of the Old World have dealt with these threats primarily by means of existing institutions and legal systems, the United States appears to have made a fundamentally different choice: considering that neither conventional judicial instruments nor those established under the framework of the laws of war could effectively counter the new forms of international terrorism, it decided to develop new legal concepts.

"This legal approach is utterly alien to the European tradition and sensibility, and is clearly contrary to the European Convention on Human Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights."

Is that last bit worth repeating...

"This legal approach is utterly alien to the European
tradition and sensibility, and is clearly contrary to the European
Convention on Human Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights."


again..

"clearly contrary to the European
Convention on Human Rights and the Universal Declaration of Human
Rights."


It it stating clearly that the 'great democracy' is in breach of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights!!!

Unknown said...

Pokkets says...

One of the most disturbing things about the US invasion was and is the way the same human rights that they claimed to be protecting, were removed. Human rights have been deteriorating both in the Middle East, and the untied states. There was so much talk of human rights by Leaders with vested interests and the attempt of the u.s.to justify abuse, where human rights abuse is renamed, or stories rendered incomplete. Another thing that is remarkable about the invasion, is the way it is consistent with 20th Century u.s. Foreign policy. I'm still horrified at the way people are prepared to accept a situation that would declared unforgivable, a few years ago.

I can even remember that being a reason for invading. The idea that people have short attention spans, and will learn to accept it. Also the idea that it is the job of the u.s. to blow something up, and the job of the United Nations to clean up the mess. The problem they have, 15 minutes is a long time in business, politics the news, or net, but People remember. There is the pretense that the people generally agree with the administration.

So the "most powerful" country in the world have been taken for fools by a fool. They are proving in spades, winning a war by copying the enemy's tactics, will not just lose the war, it will disgust alleged allies. That war does not solve the problem it is the problem.

War has been with us throughout history, It is not a problem solving technique. Governments must stop the qualification of human rights with word play and political jargon. The term that they play down to often is UNIVERSAL declaration of Human rights. This war may be a practical demonstration in how war, if used as a diplomatic tool has more power to destroy civilization.

Unknown said...

World peace decreases the potential for PROFIT. With the fall of the Iron Curtain, other 'boogiemen' needed to invented. By maintaining the US population in a permanent state of fear, achieving this is not difficult. The US remembers its former enemies for a long long time e.g. Cuba, Vietnam, Libya. Yet, it can switch allies easily too - e.g bin Laden or from Egypt to the socialist semi-communist Israel with no embarrassment. It treats its neighbours, Canada and Mexico, with disdain. Why?

It is basically the same stock in Canada and the US so it's not any genetic difference. No, there are mostly good people in both. I believe that it is the power of the real master of America, the people who control the money/power.

Who would pick gb as a presidential candidate, once never mind twice? That I know of, he only had one attribute going for him - the ability to raise campaign funds. This necessity alone discounts Americas claim to be still a democracy. So MONEY dictates who gets elected. And that money has to be repaid to the 'donation giver' in spades. Lobby groups and BIG business are prime examples.

Who can change this? Politicians! Will they? Never!! Not with a two party system. Your turn will come. And the sequel is fear and WAR. Foisted on you with a compliant tame in-on-it media.

So oil prices go up and down for more and more profit. More and more expensive and more elaborate ARMS are needed to kill more and more 'enemy' - fellow humans that must be demonized by your media.

Like a scab needing picking, they've turned black against white, catholic against protestant, Christian against Muslin, American against everyone, over the years and all so they can make more MONEY.

I've being attempting to make sense of a world that should be at peace for ordinary Joe's after the demise of the Iron Curtain. There is no sense at the moment. It's costing America an absolute fortune on 'safety measures' to frighten itself of an enemy weaker than its own home-grown terror.

Unknown said...

...home-grown terrorists.

I'm sure that there are gaps in my argument. For the purpose of brevity, I was cryptic and needed to take shortcuts. I'll expand on any point that needs explanation. No malice intended against 99.9% of humans!